Xybb (Sascha) - Art School Journey

[Xybb]

Thank you for all your input =). I'll have a listen, will likely be nice to have it play in the background while drawing.

As far as my progress goes, I am still working on my 2-PP assignement and I am note quite sure if I have bitten of more than I can chew.

This building features so many shapes that are quite difficult to construct, especially in terms of proportions. So I chose to make an educated guess about the width of the windows infront and also on the 45° oriented walls. At the moment the roof is giving me nightmares. Still, making progress :D.

Also did some figure constructions today, the first ones I ever did. It was quite a lot harder for me than I imagined, especially the pelvis. For some reason I couldn't imagine how the shape fits in perspective.

I'd love some feedback for those. At least I now know that I'll have to make the construction part a bigger focus, as these are quite poor.

[Lockenheim]

These are quite fantastic for your first constructions! Well done. I watched a video a while ago by David finch called How to draw female hips that was quite good! He also has some videos on perspective and translating them in space. Maybe they will be helpful. The perspective will get easier with practice for sure. You are off to a great start. I find it hard when I have so many lines that I get confused. I usually construct one part of a building with lines and then hide it, so I can get it back later if I need, but I don't get overwhelmed. Hopefully that helps!

[Xybb]

Hey, thank you for your help =). I'll definitly take a look at David Finch, haven't heard of him before.

As for the construction, I am kind of doing that already with layers but it tends to get messy anyways, especially on the area where a lot of complex construction is need. For example the protrusion to the right of that building has quite a lot of angles that each need seperate construction. What I feel would help me a lot is better layer management, because a lot of times some of my construction ends up on layers where it doesn't belong or I can't find certain layers anymore so I end up making new ones :D. But I guess that just comes with practice.

[Opal]

I think you did a very good job. As I see it your lines are very confident and it looks great. And yeah drawing things in perspective is sooooo difficult, but keep going you got this.

[Xybb]

Thanks for all the support you guys give, it's always very encouraging. As for my progress, another 4 hours in:

To be fair, the time would probably better spend in figures but since I am quite often not finishing what I started I'll try to make a point to finish the stuff I work on. Most of the roof is still work in progress as well as some of the windows. Window-depth is almost completely by eye as well as the railing and the windowsills. I hope it's not showing to much.

Still some gesture and figure drawing for today left. Definitely have to work on my time management more :D.

Edit: Seeing the image posted, 4 hours seem like such an enormous amount of time for what's there.

[Lockenheim]

This is coming a long quite well! The thickness you have added on the windows is so juicy. Very nice work. The receding arch trim under the left windows is very well done. This is very impressive. I was thinking about your translation question. I was reading a book yesterday while I was fighting with my snake cylinder that you might find very helpful. It's called Successful Drawing by Andrew Loomis. It has a bunch of ways to translate move objects around in perspective. Sounded like it would be right up your alley. I wouldn't sweat the amount of time you put into one piece for now. Marc always says speed will come with time. The amount of time I had to spend when I first started to understand perspective was insane. My first two one point assignments took me easily 70 hours combined, and my 2 point assignment took probably 30 - 40 hours total. I am also exceptionally slow and constructed literally everything. But I get faster over time. Fantastic progress. Keep up the good work!

[Xybb]

Calling it done for now. Probably could play a bit more with lineweight and also not sure if i want to continue the detailing on the underside of the roof to the left an the right. Overall the bottom side looks a bit bland so I might come back to it.

[Opal]

from the last picture to this I was expecting an in-between progression. picture but then you showed this and it looks spectacular great job so far.

[Xybb]

I intially wanted to, but after I worked the whole monday on it it was so close to being done that I thought I might as well just post it today instead.

I think overall it might have taken me about 15 to 20 hours. Also, the step from image 1 to 2 felt way more steep than from 2 to 3. Probably because the main features were in place and much less thinking was involved. To add to that I felt more confident in taking some liberties in just guessing certain lines (for example the slanted lines on the roof are mostly guesswork and probably wildy off if I were to construct it instead). That made the process quite a lot faster and thus more enjoyable.

What I noticed is how close the feelings "Is it really worth to keep going?" and "I kinda like where this is going." If it were a personal piece I would have given up a couple of times already, but just putting in a little more time made it really come together.

[Lockenheim]

Wow this came out fantastic! Really nice work it definitely shows the time you put in. Keep up the good work!

[Lockenheim]

Side note, I keep coming back to this post just to adore the juicy thickness on all this trim! I Just need to download this pic lol. Doing so now. Great work cant stay away from it.

[Xybb]

Haha, thank you =). It really makes my day that you like it.

[Xybb]

After investing a lot of time into the last assignement I only did about half an hour of gesture and about 1 1/2 hours worth of full figure drawing. I tried to be a bit more artistic with this one. Her left arm is way to long, whooops ^^:

As far as progress goes, currently working my way towards the term 2 lectures, but taking it quite slow.

[Lockenheim]

Fantastic work! I love the presentation as well! You absolutely nailed the position of the feet. At this rate you will be the one teaching at the school rather than applying! Great work! Keep it up!

[Xybb]

I wish. But thanks for the enthusiasm :p.

[creARTive_Paul]

nice to see that u still working hard and also improving a lot ... when ur interested in architecture u could consider using sketchup for quick perspective and bring it back from there to photoshop ... u can get sketchup for free (no commercial) too

[Xybb]

Hey, thanks for the suggestion. I am not particularly interested in (modern) architecture, but it might be interesting for drafts where buildings are involved. In general I am a fan of using 3D to plot out a rough perspective, but for these exercises I felt like it is much better to avoid doing that to get the most in terms of learning experience. I might have a look for future works. How does it compare to blender? It looks like it's specifically designed to be used for architecture.

As for my work today, only managed to get a couple of gestures in but I am quite happy with them. Drawing them felt way more natural to me than the last time, although I am not quite sure why. Any feedback on those would be greatly appreciated:

[Lockenheim]

Very nice work! These are looking more confident each time! Especially very nice job with the feet, really helps translate the pose! Keep it up!

[creARTive_Paul]

sketchup is mostly used in architecture ... it's quite easy to handle and allows u to create simply geometric forms ... the forms are white surfaces with black outline by default ... u can import those into other programs to enhance them more ... sketchup for itself is good to build a basic skeletton of a building ... in my job I use the program for perspectives (I'm a landscapearchitect), creating basic forms too do then some photobashing in photoshop

[Opal]

I love the flow of your gesture it looks so good. keep it up