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Started with the study of the proportions today. Still going with the male Since I have a "time-boxed" study time in my day, I was able to watch the full male part of the video but couldn't still reproduce in full, but was able to start at least.

Still working on the proportions. Probably will spend the full week (maybe even a bit more) to be sure I memorize this right. Overall, quite happy with the male one after I cleaned up the lines a bit. It's been very interesting to draw the female proportions, too 😊

Still drawing proportions so I can recall them from memory. This time I let the video playing in the background while trying to draw just listening to the instructions and recalling the visuals from memory. It's not terrible.... (I think.... šŸ˜…)

One more to the cookie jar šŸŖ
Slowly getting the hang of things. It was easier to recall from memory where each reference mark needed to be.

Also got a bit curious to see how things would look like without the grid lines:

These proportions are turning out great :smiley: !
I can clearly see that you're picking up on the measurements for each try.
Great job, really inspirational :smiley: !

Thanks @alexandra.d.93! Really appreciate it :smile:
The lower parts of the body are still a bit of a challenge, but since this is more about the proportions themselves instead of getting every muscle or shape right, I'm trying "to be cool" about it and move on šŸ˜…

Alright, here we go:

Somebody HELP ME, please!
Damn, this exercise of measuring proportions is hard. I'm trying to follow the lesson and do it at the same time, but the part where Mark finds out about the center line and middle line + the boundaries of the drawing and then spotting the joints happens too fast and is hard to understand "the logic" behind it.

I confess that I ended up "cheating" a lot, because I was constantly putting the drawing on top of the reference, and was doing that back and forth to get the placements right, but one of the very first few rounds was a complete disaster.

I'm using a Wacom Intuos Pro 4 to do it straight in Photoshop, but I'm missing something.

When I think about it, it felt like I got the center (vertical) line wrong, and with that, the entire drawing collapsed, but I'm not sure if it's even that or something else.

Any help/knowledge sharing will be much appreciated šŸ˜„šŸ‘

Thanks!

Hey!
I think a point of this whole grid is to help you compare angles and relations of body parts and negative space between them.
When you drawing from a reference and you want to achieve likeness you have to constantly compare your drawing to your reference.

Example:
Let's look at legs that you drew. Negative space between them is very wide in comparison to the reference.
And in terms of angles... his left arm (right one to us if we look at him), around this armpit area.. his arm and his torso together create a sharp angle of 45 degrees or so. And you compare that too.
Etc etc
It just takes a lot of time and patience in the begining always.
As for finding middle line, boundaries of the drawing - you literally divide your drawing into smaller sections which helps you notice things that you have to compare to achieve likeness.
Same for joints, u sort of eyeball it to lay down your first raw "skeleton" and once it's done u start comparing areas, negative spaces, angles etc

Idk if i explained ok
Hope it helps ^^'

Hey Danilo!

That part of the video did go by kinda fast but I think I have a pretty good explanation for making the guides.

The vertical is perfectly fine where it is. It's function is to set the max height (the head in this case), and the minimum height (the feet), as well as measure the body (head lengths).

The horizontal line sets the width of the figure. It should probably extend from the tips of the fingers on the left, to the elbow on the right. (I think) Marc set his at the bottom of the pelvis but I don't know if that was intentional. It can help you lay out the proportions similarly to the proportion chart assignment.

After setting those two lines, you should be able to create a bounding box that encompasses the whole figure. This will help you figure out the proportions better as you will know that the figure shouldn't extend outside the box.

If you're finding this assignment difficult, I would suggest re-watching the video a couple times, without doing the assignment at the same time. I find it helpful to really give the video my full attention if I'm having trouble understanding, and then do the assignment while watching the video the second or third time. It might also help to the cylinders/line of action/skeleton first if you're still having trouble.

I hope this helps. Good luck!

Hey @echoriel

Thanks a lot for having the time to review this!

Now that you mention, I wasn’t really paying attention to the negative space the body creates when you compare back to the boundary box.
My approach was more to relate the positions while having the body (or places in the body) as the main reference. But now that I think of it, feels like that one approach complements the other, or at least is there to ā€œchallenge the otherā€ when the other falls short (like, making sure things fall into the right place).

I also think I was making this exercise ā€œharderā€ than it needs to be. I was taking too much distance to compare something that was right in front of me and also the stylus from the tablet is kinda ā€œfatā€ and don’t let me see things clearly to mark the points down. From now on I’ll also try to measure things closer and using a regular pencil do mark down the areas while using the stylus to place the dots. Does it make sense? (Will this be kinda ā€œcheatingā€?)

Once again thanks a lot for the explanation!

Hey @Shellac-Belly,

Thanks for the explanation!

Definitely a good idea to go through the video a few times over to get the hang of it. I’ll do that again 😊
Also, I appreciate the thought of starting with more basic shapes and build up from there. I’ll give that a try.

Thanks again for having the time to review this.

Cheers!

So,

Red lines are where the drawing was SUPPOSED to go, while dark lines are where the lines actually went. F*** me šŸ˜„

But it's alright, it's alright. I'll get there eventually. This time at least I didn't cheat and I got some things right (the head proportions, boundary box, even some of the joint markers were actually accurate). It's a good learning process.

I'm probably gonna stick with this lesson for a while. I'll try to draw this model correctly and once I do it, I'll move on to at least a few more before calling this complete.

Things that I noticed this time around:

  1. The idea I had of getting my hand closer to the model to try to make measuring easy didn't work that well. Either it would hit the laptop keyboard while measuring down so I could finish measuring or I would measure the wrong way around because I wasn't stretching my arm.
  2. Not sure if this is good or bad yet: instead of measuring everything in "heads", I tried to just grab a pencil and measure the distance from point A to B (say, chin to elbow) and then I would place a marker to the able. Worked for some, didn't work for all.
  3. Using a pencil/mechanic pencil instead of the stylus to do the markers actually helped. Having one hand marking down while holding the pen made things a bit easier.
  4. Even from watching the videos, I noticed that it's reasonable to say that the "vertical centerline" is not really that center since it starts from the chin. Not that you can't make a real center one, but I also found it easier to have the chin as a "center reference".
  5. Next time, I'll try to add more markers for the torso. Trying to identify where things begin and end might help me figure out the shape a bit better.
  6. Paying attention to negative spaces also paid off a bit, but I need to get better at it.

That's it, folks. I hope this helps someone (altho the only real to learn is to actually do it).

Here are couple of videos that I think could also be helpful in learning how artists approach drawing from a still life.

Here's a video about sighting and measuring in drawing - you can see and hear how an artist approaches measuring as he goes about his drawing.

Shorte and quicker explanation
And again it can be all adapted to digital painting easily. As monitors are already usually at 90 degree angle and your reference is gonna be located way more comfortable rather than if u had to paint with an easel haha :smiley:

Still not quite there yet.

The first tries I was able to locate the base for the torso and the right leg, but arms and left leg are still a challenge. I tried to highlight all the attempts so far.

Still didn't quite the that mental "click" yet of thinking "Ohhhhhhh that's why...".
Don't really know how to quite use the measurements yet. Some of the tries I had better luck just going straight from observing the reference instead of trying to measure anything to later mark and draw.

Let's keep going. One step at a time, one punch at a time, one round at a time.

Cheers,

Hey @echoriel,

Thanks a lot for the videos!
I'm still watching them but they are really helpful, I really appreciate it.

True about the monitors! I like traditional art as well but I can imagine the pain of trying this with an easel! šŸ˜…

I still have to practice some more, but I'll get there. Thanks again!